"We had our passports because we just went away six months before, so I got those. I think that's a very important thing to have. I grab my work bag, my work clothes, my husband's wallet, glasses and that was it, really. We got a green shopping bag full of stuff and nothing else."
These few things and nothing else, that's what Helen Cull and her family were able to take with them before their house burnt down six years ago in Perth.
They all got out in one piece, but they lost everything.
They didn't live in a bushfire-prone area, but a man using a tool on a very hot day was enough to start the fire that destroyed seventy homes.
Even if you can't always know when a bushfire will strike, there are tools to help.
Ben Shephard, inspector at the New South Wales Rural Fire Service says it's important to check fire danger ratings if you live or are travelling through a bushfire-prone area.